bobdrinktech Merchant Von Netherlands Mitglied seit Apr. 2015 bobdrinktech 20 Mai 2017 17:32 Is it possible to automate the cookie question so that people automatically agree if they continue browsing the site. And forget all the annoying cookie questions. I have seen it on other sites already. Thanks Bob
tim Founder Von Sweden Mitglied seit Mai 2013 tim 20 Mai 2017 19:31 I'm not sure that complies to the EU law. You want it displayed once then removed? I suggest removing it and just leave a similar note in the footer.
bobdrinktech Merchant Von Netherlands Mitglied seit Apr. 2015 bobdrinktech 21 Mai 2017 14:17 Monty Python had the Ministry of silly walks, EU has silly laws. Do we, or better does LiteCart need cookies?
user4147 Merchant Von United Kingdom Mitglied seit Mai 2017 user4147 21 Mai 2017 21:57 @Boddrink The short answer, yes litecart needs cookies. The long answer,not is doesnt but it would need (as would any shopping cart) a major rewrite to remove cookie use and convert to the old way of tracking sessions within the application. These can be much less secure than cookies if not done correctly. While i believe its a silly regulation it is based on a good foundation. the key points being that you are placing something in a private space and that cookies can be attacked which may breach the users security. For the most part cookies are indeed harmless and only perform simple tasks but in some cases they perform a greater task such as helping to identify a user to keep them logged into the site. These are of course all common aspects. The biggest factor they wanted to cut our was an invasion of privacy, putting a cookie onto a computer without consent might be considered in the same light as somebody entering your home and storing their belongings without your consent. You would not permit it and the same applies to cookies, its a matter of choice. With regard to automating the process, its a grey area, while the regulation states you must inform the user of your intention to save cookies to their browser, it actually only applies for cookies that are not specifically required for functionality of a website. You might consider that keeping a session cookie which you will maintain on your end to say, maintain a cart, ensure security of your system etc would be something that is required and not something optional like a tracking cookie to welcome a customer when they return. I have seen sites with a simple notice that just says that continuing to use the website signals acceptance. Whether or not these are legal as far as the EU regulation is concerned is debatable. So far as i am aware there has yet to be a case concerning cookie compliance goes to court. It will be the first case that determines the precedent for all further cases, assuming a judge rules that a notice is all that is required then all of these click to to confirm cookies will disappear in a very short space of time. It is likely however that the ruling will further clarify the regulation maybe even rewrite it specifically stating that the notice must be prominent and stand out clearly from the rest of the website, it may even include a number of page loads that must me met and will definitely include direction on how often the notice is supposed to be displayed. Currently it seems the generally accepted implementation is to show until accepted then repeat after a given time, normally a very long time, Ive seen some as long as 12 months. As it stands right now, you can make a non intrusive compliance notice, a small band at the top or bottom with an acceptance button. Obviously the wording is important so they know that if not accepted if they continue cookies will still be used but will be removed once they leave the website. You can achieve this easily by modifying your cookie generation to allow for non acceptance, set the cookies to expire at close of browser or set a longer expiry if they accept.
bobdrinktech Merchant Von Netherlands Mitglied seit Apr. 2015 bobdrinktech 22 Mai 2017 09:09 @Chris Thanks for the answer that left no questions open. Bob
bobdrinktech Merchant Von Netherlands Mitglied seit Apr. 2015 bobdrinktech 26 Mai 2017 08:09 May 2018 there will be a new EU law concerning this cookie item. In short: the computer owner will decide, with his browser settings, witch cookies he is willing to accept on his computer. Bob
user4147 Merchant Von United Kingdom Mitglied seit Mai 2017 user4147 1 Juni 2017 23:01 That sounds to me like they are taking the responsibility away from the website developer and moving it to the browser developer. It actually makes sense to me. Look at it this way, a browser knows a cookie request was sent to it. Why is it that they chose the website to be responsible, likely because the owners couldnt fight back, no real power but most browsers are backed my massive companies. It would make sense for them to incorporate their own cookie notice, (This website wants to send you these cookies, they offer milk too if you accept). in a standard format to the browser in a standard position. the variation of notices ive seen is vast, some small squares in the corner, some a thick banner at the top, bottom, thin banners, banners that are barely noticable and then as litecart does, int he middle of the page beneath the main content. It has to be confusing for the visitor who may not know where they are. But more to the point, if the browser is responsible for the control, its just a matter of sensing a message (custom if permitted) to the browser along with the cookies. This way the custom message would appear in a format and location the user is used to. If they accept, awesome heres your milk, if not the browser simply drops them and your site starts to malfunction. But still, that would lead to better website design because you would be forced to build a website that works well both with and without cookies. Javascript is another one, we rely on browsers having it permitted, infact I have seen sites (usually heavily funded by the myriad of adverts they show) that require it or the website simply does not function. You can just about browse but the majority of the things you would want to do are simply inaccessible without it. Its been a slow change to that sort of website, in the early days javascript was used sparingly for that very reason.
label LiteCart Fan Von Australia Mitglied seit Dez. 2018 label 4 Jan. 2019 15:00 Is there an easy way to just remove the Cookies warning? As it's not required outside of the EU.
dodo Moderator Von Lithuania Mitglied seit März 2016 dodo 4 Jan. 2019 17:17 Yes, you can disable it in settings.
label LiteCart Fan Von Australia Mitglied seit Dez. 2018 label 5 Jan. 2019 02:16 I just read through the 8 pages of settings twice and I can't see anything to do with Cookies warnings? Can you please help me out and let me know which specific setting? Thanks
dodo Moderator Von Lithuania Mitglied seit März 2016 dodo 5 Jan. 2019 04:05 It's in template settings. Go to appearance/templates and then settings icon. Or this link YOURDOMAIN/admin/?app=appearance&doc=template_settings
label LiteCart Fan Von Australia Mitglied seit Dez. 2018 label 5 Jan. 2019 05:07 Perfect! I didn't even see that settings icon before. And I killed two birds with one stone as I found how to turn off the Product Modal Window.